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Pacheco & Kelly sign new deals :2001:
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 06:05 PM
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I realise i could have just started this... Friday brain fade.
"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters.
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 06:11 PM
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Yu can console yourself with the knowledge it probably wouldn't have been as good :y: :cool:
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 06:14 PM
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Plus the brand exposure i'll get through sponsoring a thread such as this will make it more than worthwhile.
"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters.
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:07 PM
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RuhRoh Brand?
Aint no-one gonna compete with The Chin tm etc.
Aint no-one gonna compete with The Chin tm etc.
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:13 PM
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I'm not just aggeraphobic, i'm aggeraphobic the brand tbf. Will be setting up franchises soon.
"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters.
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
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http://www.independe...ce-2448861.html
Ouch!
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Mutual respect for mediocrity spawned this fine bromance
Sunday December 05 2010
We've all had enough pain. We've all had enough misery and dissembling. But the next 24 hours will bring more, although it will be disguised as a heart-warming story of friends re-united. Gerard Houllier returns to Anfield tomorrow and he will be met there by his great friend Rot Hodgson.
If you had Rot Hodgson's away record, you too would have many friends in football. Since August 2009, Hodgson has won two league matches away from home, so it is no surprise he is greeted warmly wherever he goes.
Hodgson, as he repeatedly reminds people, may be one of the game's most respected figures, but when he walks through the front door of a football club, he is also a walking, talking three points for the home side. All that is left is to choose the wine. They spend a lot of time talking abut wine.
Instead of points, he accumulates friends, who tell him how well he's doing in his latest job, the management of the decline of Liverpool.
He will be emboldened by the words from his great friend Houllier, who returns to Anfield, despite never really having left. From afar, he guided Liverpool to victory in the Champions League in Istanbul. It was his side, a side containing Djimi Traore, that won the European Cup. At the UEFA conferences where he sees his friends or when he sits down with a journalist, Houllier tells them this and they nod sagely. It is a version of the truth. Signing Djimi Traore was Houllier's achievement. Winning the European Cup with Djimi Traore was Rafael Benitez's.
These stories of managerial bonhomie are not complete without mention of the "good bottle of red" that one has decanted for another. The mistrust of Arsene Wenger by many stems from the fact that Wenger, though clearly French, eschews the good bottle of red.
There will be more talk of red wine in the build-up to tomorrow's game than during a Keith Floyd show where he is cooking coq au vin with red wine gravy followed by a red wine tapioca pudding.
They are both friends with Alex Ferguson too. Ferguson has acquired many friends in football, but he has rarely shown up at a football ground without considering if he could build a lifelong grudge around the presence of some enemy in the vicinity.
Hodgson last week described Liverpool's draw in the FA Cup with United as "sad". There are eight members of the team that won 4-1 at Old Trafford still in Liverpool's squad. Hodgson will be able to pick on seven of them and the painful decline of Jamie Carragher means he will not miss the eighth.
If Liverpool have disintegrated since that time, Manchester United have got no better. Hodgson's sadness was over the meeting of two big teams in the third round, but there was the underlying sadness as he jokes about putting on his make-up for live TV that, once again, his real record would be scrutinised and exposed.
He is just a patsy. Most of those who appointed him are no longer employed at Anfield but yet he must muddle on.
Many of his supporters in the media castigate Liverpool fans for abandoning their principles and not showing the patience they have traditionally granted previous managers. This, they will claim, is a reflection, of our impatient times with its demand for instant gratification (my problem with instant gratification is that it takes too long).
Yet Liverpool fans were pretty patient with Benitez and that was six months ago. It may not be the times that have changed just the credentials of the incumbent.
Hodgson's supporters still point to his record, highlighting in all seriousness his exploits at Fulham. There is no real success. Hodgson has never won a league title outside Scandinavia.
His methods, as he put it himself, "have translated from Halmstads to Malmo, to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax, to the Swiss national team".
Liverpool fans are not showing impatience with Hodgson, they are voicing their feeling that he was the wrong appointment for a club that demands more than going a year without an away win and nobody noticing.
It could be that those who praised Hodgson so highly weren't really paying attention. It was easy to praise a friendly and welcoming manager while he was at Fulham. It was easy, even if he was going from one end of the season to the next without winning away from home to talk about his exploits.
One journalist recently wrote a piece defending Hodgson (guess what? He needs time). Liverpool fans were criticised for chanting Kenny Dalglish's name and the writer wondered if maybe Liverpool fans should get Dalglish just to see how they would react if it was a Dalglish side that lost at home to Northampton, went into the bottom three or lost at Stoke.
It was Hodgson who did this but it seems it is always somebody else's problem.
Usually, it is Benitez's. Last week's news that Liverpool incurred £9m in agents' fees thanks solely to Benitez was another example. This cost came about "tackling the legacy of the previous regime" as it was widely reported.
Hodgson arrived saying Liverpool were over-staffed and then recruited Konchesky, Poulsen and Joe Cole while letting some young talent go and releasing a finally fit Alberto Aquilani on loan.
The reality is that Hodgson has discovered that Liverpool is a club apart, uninterested in the soothing words from the media.
"Everyone I know in football respects the job I'm doing here and aren't too surprised it hasn't been an easy start," he said last week as he anticipated a meeting with another old friend, Harry Redknapp, before reminding people that Jose Mourinho had said Liverpool will get "worse and worse". Hodgson left White Hart Lane pointless and characteristically fatalistic, even after a good bottle of red.
Tomorrow promises more warmth and conviviality. Hodgson and Houllier will talk about their mutual respect and reflect on their great gifts of survival, skipping over their exploits which have earned them such admiration from their many friends in football.
A draw would be the most fitting demonstration of this great bromance.
dfanning@independent.ie
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Sunday December 05 2010
We've all had enough pain. We've all had enough misery and dissembling. But the next 24 hours will bring more, although it will be disguised as a heart-warming story of friends re-united. Gerard Houllier returns to Anfield tomorrow and he will be met there by his great friend Rot Hodgson.
If you had Rot Hodgson's away record, you too would have many friends in football. Since August 2009, Hodgson has won two league matches away from home, so it is no surprise he is greeted warmly wherever he goes.
Hodgson, as he repeatedly reminds people, may be one of the game's most respected figures, but when he walks through the front door of a football club, he is also a walking, talking three points for the home side. All that is left is to choose the wine. They spend a lot of time talking abut wine.
Instead of points, he accumulates friends, who tell him how well he's doing in his latest job, the management of the decline of Liverpool.
He will be emboldened by the words from his great friend Houllier, who returns to Anfield, despite never really having left. From afar, he guided Liverpool to victory in the Champions League in Istanbul. It was his side, a side containing Djimi Traore, that won the European Cup. At the UEFA conferences where he sees his friends or when he sits down with a journalist, Houllier tells them this and they nod sagely. It is a version of the truth. Signing Djimi Traore was Houllier's achievement. Winning the European Cup with Djimi Traore was Rafael Benitez's.
These stories of managerial bonhomie are not complete without mention of the "good bottle of red" that one has decanted for another. The mistrust of Arsene Wenger by many stems from the fact that Wenger, though clearly French, eschews the good bottle of red.
There will be more talk of red wine in the build-up to tomorrow's game than during a Keith Floyd show where he is cooking coq au vin with red wine gravy followed by a red wine tapioca pudding.
They are both friends with Alex Ferguson too. Ferguson has acquired many friends in football, but he has rarely shown up at a football ground without considering if he could build a lifelong grudge around the presence of some enemy in the vicinity.
Hodgson last week described Liverpool's draw in the FA Cup with United as "sad". There are eight members of the team that won 4-1 at Old Trafford still in Liverpool's squad. Hodgson will be able to pick on seven of them and the painful decline of Jamie Carragher means he will not miss the eighth.
If Liverpool have disintegrated since that time, Manchester United have got no better. Hodgson's sadness was over the meeting of two big teams in the third round, but there was the underlying sadness as he jokes about putting on his make-up for live TV that, once again, his real record would be scrutinised and exposed.
He is just a patsy. Most of those who appointed him are no longer employed at Anfield but yet he must muddle on.
Many of his supporters in the media castigate Liverpool fans for abandoning their principles and not showing the patience they have traditionally granted previous managers. This, they will claim, is a reflection, of our impatient times with its demand for instant gratification (my problem with instant gratification is that it takes too long).
Yet Liverpool fans were pretty patient with Benitez and that was six months ago. It may not be the times that have changed just the credentials of the incumbent.
Hodgson's supporters still point to his record, highlighting in all seriousness his exploits at Fulham. There is no real success. Hodgson has never won a league title outside Scandinavia.
His methods, as he put it himself, "have translated from Halmstads to Malmo, to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax, to the Swiss national team".
Liverpool fans are not showing impatience with Hodgson, they are voicing their feeling that he was the wrong appointment for a club that demands more than going a year without an away win and nobody noticing.
It could be that those who praised Hodgson so highly weren't really paying attention. It was easy to praise a friendly and welcoming manager while he was at Fulham. It was easy, even if he was going from one end of the season to the next without winning away from home to talk about his exploits.
One journalist recently wrote a piece defending Hodgson (guess what? He needs time). Liverpool fans were criticised for chanting Kenny Dalglish's name and the writer wondered if maybe Liverpool fans should get Dalglish just to see how they would react if it was a Dalglish side that lost at home to Northampton, went into the bottom three or lost at Stoke.
It was Hodgson who did this but it seems it is always somebody else's problem.
Usually, it is Benitez's. Last week's news that Liverpool incurred £9m in agents' fees thanks solely to Benitez was another example. This cost came about "tackling the legacy of the previous regime" as it was widely reported.
Hodgson arrived saying Liverpool were over-staffed and then recruited Konchesky, Poulsen and Joe Cole while letting some young talent go and releasing a finally fit Alberto Aquilani on loan.
The reality is that Hodgson has discovered that Liverpool is a club apart, uninterested in the soothing words from the media.
"Everyone I know in football respects the job I'm doing here and aren't too surprised it hasn't been an easy start," he said last week as he anticipated a meeting with another old friend, Harry Redknapp, before reminding people that Jose Mourinho had said Liverpool will get "worse and worse". Hodgson left White Hart Lane pointless and characteristically fatalistic, even after a good bottle of red.
Tomorrow promises more warmth and conviviality. Hodgson and Houllier will talk about their mutual respect and reflect on their great gifts of survival, skipping over their exploits which have earned them such admiration from their many friends in football.
A draw would be the most fitting demonstration of this great bromance.
dfanning@independent.ie
Sunday Independent
Ouch!
"Mind you, I've been here during the bad times too - one year we came second."
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Good article. i've been hoping the media love affair with Rot would end for quite a while.
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Great article.
On another note it'll be Skrtels 100th game for us tonight (assuming he plays) :y:
On another note it'll be Skrtels 100th game for us tonight (assuming he plays) :y:
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"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters.
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 04:36 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.u...ool/9264585.stm
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I've a lot of time for Kelly, looks capable of making the step up to 1st team and hopefully he'll make a name for himself here.
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Liverpool defender Martin Kelly says it is time he made a name for himself after signing a new contract last week.
The 20-year-old has penned a deal to stay at Anfield until 2014.
"Since I was first able to kick a football, all I've wanted to do to is play for Liverpool," Kelly told BBC Radio Merseyside.
"I need to keep pushing and progressing now I've got the contract. The hard work starts now to try to make a name for myself in the team."
The England under-21 international has played 12 times in the Liverpool first team this season, and he says the experience has been valuable to his progression.
"I've settled in a lot more this season and found myself getting used to the players," Kelly continued.
"It's great being around the players that are in our squad because of their quality and it's the best place to be at, in terms of helping my development.
"At the minute I'm enjoying it and I'm enjoying my football."
He added: "I've been at Liverpool since I was seven, and the feeling I'm getting playing for Liverpool and getting the chances I'm getting - I don't want it to stop."
The new deal for the former Reds trainee was tempered by the loss of vice-captain Jamie Carragher who will be out until the new year with a dislocated shoulder.
Kelly says he will do all he can to help the team in the absence of such an influential player.
"We didn't need that at this time of the year," he said. "Jamie is our best defender and he's the one who brings our team forward and he tells everyone on the pitch what they're doing and he's going to be a massive loss.
"If the boss needs me to fill in any position along the back four then hopefully I can do that.
"I've got to take the chances I get and just hope Jamie gets back as soon as possible as we'll miss him."
The 20-year-old has penned a deal to stay at Anfield until 2014.
"Since I was first able to kick a football, all I've wanted to do to is play for Liverpool," Kelly told BBC Radio Merseyside.
"I need to keep pushing and progressing now I've got the contract. The hard work starts now to try to make a name for myself in the team."
The England under-21 international has played 12 times in the Liverpool first team this season, and he says the experience has been valuable to his progression.
"I've settled in a lot more this season and found myself getting used to the players," Kelly continued.
"It's great being around the players that are in our squad because of their quality and it's the best place to be at, in terms of helping my development.
"At the minute I'm enjoying it and I'm enjoying my football."
He added: "I've been at Liverpool since I was seven, and the feeling I'm getting playing for Liverpool and getting the chances I'm getting - I don't want it to stop."
The new deal for the former Reds trainee was tempered by the loss of vice-captain Jamie Carragher who will be out until the new year with a dislocated shoulder.
Kelly says he will do all he can to help the team in the absence of such an influential player.
"We didn't need that at this time of the year," he said. "Jamie is our best defender and he's the one who brings our team forward and he tells everyone on the pitch what they're doing and he's going to be a massive loss.
"If the boss needs me to fill in any position along the back four then hopefully I can do that.
"I've got to take the chances I get and just hope Jamie gets back as soon as possible as we'll miss him."
:y:
I've a lot of time for Kelly, looks capable of making the step up to 1st team and hopefully he'll make a name for himself here.
"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters.
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 06:21 PM
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He will I think. Our defence looks fucking shakey at the moment.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:00 PM
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Carragher, Skrtel, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Kelly, Wilson, Ayala
thats quite an impressive collection of centre backs tbf
thats quite an impressive collection of centre backs tbf
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 06:05 PM
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Itandje has been released :lol: I wonder what he's actually been doing for this season?
http://www.liverpool...leaves-the-club
http://www.liverpool...leaves-the-club
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 06:12 PM
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Well that's christmas ruined.
"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters.
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques."
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 06:28 PM
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http://www.skysports...6562121,00.html
Johnson's leaving because we've been looking at right-backs. That being nothing to do with him being the only one at the club of course :roll:
Johnson's leaving because we've been looking at right-backs. That being nothing to do with him being the only one at the club of course :roll:
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I've a lot of time for Kelly, looks capable of making the step up to 1st team and hopefully he'll make a name for himself here.
I actually think that of all the young players we have that get talked up so much (Pacheco, Suso, Shelvey, Wilson etc) Kelly is the one I can see being a permanent fixture in the Liverpool first team for the next decade or so. I dont think Ive ever seen him look out of his depth in the first team; pretty much from the first game he played he looked liked like a player who has what it takes to make it. Im delighted to see him getting a proper contract.
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http://www.skysports...6562121,00.html
Johnson's leaving because we've been looking at right-backs. That being nothing to do with him being the only one at the club of course :roll:
Johnson's leaving because we've been looking at right-backs. That being nothing to do with him being the only one at the club of course :roll:
Telegraph reporting the interest in Fanni (ooh er!) is putting GJ and Agger at risk. He must be bloody versatile if he is going to cover right back and the left sided centre back! :santapoundit:
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Posted 09 December 2010 - 10:39 AM
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both agger and johnson have publically fallen out with roy though, the twunt.
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